If you were born after Feb. 21, 1986. . .

Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:46 am

Too bad Chrono Cross was not Chrono Trigger 2, and bad.

Awkana · Post by **Awkana** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:12 pm

I made it about 2/3rds of the way through Chrono Cross, then just stopped one day and never played it again.

Chrono Trigger on the other hand: I've beat it all 32 ways and I've beat the game a total of 900 times. I was obsessed with this game, and when I got the emulator, I played it all over again.

My favourite RPG of all time, for the Sega Dreamcast: Skies of Arcadia.
I fucking love this game and still.. ah fuck, I have to hook up my Dreamcast now.

Post by **Hezin** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:16 pm

Just get the gamecube version Awak..game is fucking fantastic. Chrono trigger lies heavily in my top rpg's of all time, and agreed the sequeal made FFXII look good.

Post by Yo » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:20 pm

I can't play the RPGs either. No Zelda, Chrono Trigger, FF.
But I could watch someone play them.

Post by **Payndar Circusdorf** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:20 pm

Hezin wrote:Just get the gamecube version Awak..game is fucking fantastic. Chrono trigger lies heavily in my top rpg's of all time, and agreed the sequeal made FFXII look good.

FFXII? You played it already?

I assume you meant FF VII, which truly was horrible. Chrono Cross is redeemed for me by the beautiful design, the decent gameplay, and the All-these-years-later-I-still-can't-believe-this-is-from-a-video-game soundtrack.

None of those elements exist in FF VII.

Edit: But, it will always suck, because of its Only-the-Japanese-could-write-a-story-this-mind-numbingly-complicated-and-it-still-be-this-fucking-stupid plot. And that horrible ending.

Post by **Iamnameless** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:24 pm

Payndar Circusdorf wrote:Edit: But, it will always suck, because of its Only-the-Japanese-could-write-a-story-this-mind-numbingly-complicated-and-it-still-be-this-fucking-stupid plot. And that horrible ending.

Hahaha...so true...

Post by **Ves** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:26 pm

Not to mention the 2 hour movie Advent Children cleared up nothing and was just as contrived.

Awkana · Post by **Awkana** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:26 pm

He was referring to Skies of Arcadia I believe..

I LOVED FF3, and I didn't really get into FFVII...mainly because it would fucking freeze at Sephiroth (on PC).

Secret of Mana 2 was pretty sweet, I forget the Japanese name.

And I concur with you on the evaluation on Chrono Cross. That should be the review on IGN for it.

Post by **Hezin** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:27 pm

Payndar Circusdorf wrote:
Hezin wrote:Just get the gamecube version Awak..game is fucking fantastic. Chrono trigger lies heavily in my top rpg's of all time, and agreed the sequeal made FFXII look good.
FFXII? You played it already?

I assume you meant FF VII, which truly was horrible. Chrono Cross is redeemed for me by the beautiful design, the decent gameplay, and the All-these-years-later-I-still-can't-believe-this-is-from-a-video-game soundtrack.

None of those elements exist in FF VII.

Edit: But, it will always suck, because of its Only-the-Japanese-could-write-a-story-this-mind-numbingly-complicated-and-it-still-be-this-fucking-stupid plot. And that horrible ending.

A few clear ups
1. Yes I played FFXII demo came with Dragon quest 8. I like it alot.
2. In my original post FXII should be interpeted as FFX2, which made me want to kill myself.
3. FF VII is one of the best...after you leave the city.

Post by **Payndar Circusdorf** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:29 pm

Iamnameless wrote:
Payndar Circusdorf wrote:Edit: But, it will always suck, because of its Only-the-Japanese-could-write-a-story-this-mind-numbingly-complicated-and-it-still-be-this-fucking-stupid plot. And that horrible ending.
Hahaha...so true...

When I wrote this, I was talking about Chrono Cross, but rereading it, it also applies to FF VII (and even moreso to FF VIII, which was a piece of shit all the way around).

Post by **Ves** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:30 pm

I used to think FF7(stop useing roman numerals) was the greatest. That is until I got a PC pirate copy and played it again. Payn is right, its complete trash and is probably what lead the series into the constant stream of shitty main characters (Locke > Cloud + Squall + Tidus + monkey boy in FF9).

FF6 is the still the best there is.

Post by **Payndar Circusdorf** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:33 pm

Hezin wrote: 3. FF VII is one of the best...after you leave the city.

Until the end of the first CD, after which the only interesting character in the game, Sephiroth, never says one single fucking word, but we learn all about the true identity of the person who remotely controls a fucking stuffed cat or whatever the fuck it is, that you for some reason recruited to help you save the world.

So yes, I will grant that half of one of the 3 CDs of FFVII is partially redeemable.

Post by **Iamnameless** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:50 pm

Payndar Circusdorf wrote:So yes, I will grant that half of one of the 3 CDs of FFVII is partially redeemable.

So it's 16.7% good?

Post by **Payndar Circusdorf** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:39 pm

No, 16.7% is redeemable.

It still doesn't erase the lame characters, materia system, or insultingly easy gameplay.

Post by **Maz** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:52 pm

I still love link to the past