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Didnt Salvatore write the episode II novel? The novel was infinitely better then the movie. Maybe I will pick up some of his fantasy stuff.
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The Episode 2 novel isn't good when you hear Natalie Portman's droning, "please get me back to my trailer so I can go to sleep" line delivery.
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Nah I bought the books at BAM.
Anyways..
Go read some Last of the Renshai Trilogy.
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My internet went out so I picked up Game of Thrones, I read it and Clash of Kings in about 6 days. I am on the 3rd book now.
When does the 4th one come out? It is called Feast of Crows I think.
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A Feast For Crows is due to come out in August of 2726.
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A Feast For Crows has no ETA ATM, FYI.
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Stupid inside cover of storm of swords.
I should go post all over the Internet.
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Right now I expect to see Jesus reading Harry Potter 6 before AFFC comes out.
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I'm on book 3 now, what kind of drugs are you people on that you say he's better than Jordan? I really could care less about every character's cock or lack there of.
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You act like men don't think about sex 50 times a day.
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WTF are you talking about? There is one eunuch. See, Martin's characters have believable problems, not fascinations with plump ankles.

I am sure I have already posted a litany on why Martin is better than Jordan. Feel free to quote and refute it at your leisure.
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There are quite a few more Kabol, but I still don't see his argument.
Characters whose manhood "dangling, getting hard, or lack there of (even method of removal)" were referred to:
Varys
Jon Snow
Dobber
Ser Dontos
The Unsullied
Vargo Hoat
Every Tyrion chapter

Dave is right in some instances though, such as when "Dobber runs out of the bathhouse naked, his manhood dangling."
Of course it's gonna be dangling, he's naked.
I believe this is the sort of thing Dave is refering to.
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But still, he implies that the discussions of cocks is the prime focus of the books when it only incompasses a sentence or two every chapter (except when Tyrion is referred to as Shaes giant of lannister, but even that is a nickname).

All I am saying is that it does not affect the incredibly well weaved plot and storylines in a negative way. There is no arguing against Martins world being more believable and deep then Jordans.
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Oh, and back to the original argument, I like both Jordan and Martin. I really like the style in how Martin's chapters are split up. I enjoy good books, and just like WoT, I'm reading these at a pace of 1 per week (except for book 1 - That took 3.5 days since I had no Internet). I am a big fan of Jon Snow. And I totally agree with Phelps about the realism of Martin's characters, but the fact is, we are reading fantasy. Realism isn't a thing that bother's me. If Dany herself turned into a dragon, I wouldn't care as long as the story was good.

I am halfway through the 3rd book (just read the part with Beric Dondarrion fighting Sandor Clegane *splooge*).

If the tiger killer doesn't hurry up and finish some book four, I'm gonna be angry.

I might haveta start the Bifrost Guardian series then.
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I counter with Egwene being raised to Amyrillin. All the Aes Sedai bare their breasts while she washes their feet. I would prefer Jordan keep his fetishes to himself.

With Martin, at least they build the character. Tyrion is a horny motherfucker. Hoat is just plain perverted. Varys is a eunuch. These people either think with their dick (making a mistake because of it is the common theme) or are more logical due to the lack of it.

See I wouldn't mind Mat getting a chubby when some barmaid with fat ankles sits on his lap if he didn't RUN THE FUCK AWAY when a queen wants to have sex with him 24/7. Maybe he actually prefers plump-ankled men which is why he hired that fat horse thief for quadruple pay. Whatever, that is fine as long as it makes goddamn sense. Instead, any paragraph envolving intimiate relationships make no sense whatsoever.
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